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« on: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 01:31 AM »

I have not been able to find a real CAI for my 318i that replaces the Air Flow Meter and eliminates that little flapper valve that is the main restriction in the intake.  So in the mean time after performing the famous "de-baffle",  I found at the hardware a piece of A/C conduit that was the same size as the hole left in the air box.  I put one screw in it to hold it and twisted it around the edge of the radiator and it now draws air unrestricted from the same place the OE snorkel was.  Now, however, it is 4' inches free flow into the air box.  Not to bad for $4.  I have a couple of pics, I'll try to crop them down to size.  I'm kinda new at the picture posting part.


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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 05:04 PM »

That's pretty much the way I did it on my E30 318i. It worked pretty well for the E30.
How is it working on your E36?
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 05:51 PM »

I'm very pleased with it.  When I first took the baffle out and left the hole open it created some resonance that didn't sound just right.  Plus I was pulling air from next to the radiator.  After I put the little extension in the odd noise went away.  It feels a little more powerful at the top end also.
Thanks for the comments.
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 02:00 PM »

yeah I liked the way mine felt at the top end too... it started pulling real hard around 4000 rpm... i loved it!
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 02:25 PM »

I'm sure it is more noticable in an E30 with the lower weight, but is did wake up on the top side.  I just hope to be able to find a intake system with different style air flow meter and get rid of that little flapper deal.  Then I should really notice a change.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 02:39 PM »

have you thought about chiptuning it? you will have a noticeable gain with that... I know on the new VW's alot of the time when you chip them they go in and put new MAF to work better with the chip software... Just a thought...
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 03:10 PM »

I've thought about.  I was focusing on my suspension stuff that I just fininshed.  I had a Ford truck that I did a MAF conversion on.  It was a great improvement.  But it made tuning more difficult and then I was married to 93 octane.  And most of the chips for my car have the same requirement.  I'm being a little cheap.  And I am a little skeptical of the real gain and how noticeable it will be. 
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 08:35 PM »

well I'll tell you this. My buddies E36 just got a dinan chip and everything done and tuned and there was a NOTICEABLE gain. It pulles SO hard in every gear at any RPM it feels like a new M3 (yes I've driven a new M3 my other friends dad has one and I got to drive him home from the bar in it one night, 2004 so sick) it loses traction getting on the interstate when he is really getting on it shifting in every gear the tires chirp... I don't know what they did to make it run like that but it is a beast! The minimum octane he can run is 91... but he runs 93 because he can... at the track he runs race fuel (117) and it is just a kickass car... anyways...
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 10:20 PM »

I would not discount Dinan tuning.  Is his E36 a 6 cyl?
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 03:06 AM »

yeah it's a sixer... it is unlike anything I have ever seen...
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 12:36 PM »

I spent the money and bought the initial Dinan chip upgrade and it makes a great difference. The main thing was quicker throttle response and removing the limiter. I will be doing some more mods this winter. i had planned to do them this summer, but the house projects are bleeding my fun money.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 12:43 PM »

That's the big difference.  For the 1.8 the expected gain is than 10 hp.  And I'm not sure that it would be very noticeable.  Then when I factor in 10-15 cents more per gallon of gas.  I'm being cheap for now.
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 12:52 PM »

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          It would depend on what you were after. I actuall get better gas mileage, when I stay out of it, than I did previously. For my first upgrade I thought it was a good decision. The important thing is too look at what you are trying to accomplish and spend the money in that direction. Sic rims rarely make a car faster, but they help the appearance. It is all in what we are trying to do, not what other think we should ahve done.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 01:00 PM »

I mentioned this in the first post.  If have never seen the air box to 318i it is weird.  The air flow meter is built into the plastic box top.  And it has a cast alumium housing that holds the sensor and there is a square hole that is 2x2 inches.  It has a metal flap that closes when the car is off.  I guess this helps on start-up to limit the air flow so it's rich on start.  If I can ever find an intake that replaces that assembly then I be excited about other performance upgrades.  The way it is now, no upgrade will be optimized with that tiny airflow restriction.
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 01:52 PM »

Dport,
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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 01:10 PM »

you could also do a "Ram-air"intake by connecting a sort of flexible pipe to the brake-ducts

just dremel a hole in that sucker and your done!
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 01:14 PM »

Yes, I've read about that trick.  I'll probably stay with what I have until I can find a system that gets rid of that little flap valve and really opens up the intake.
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