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« on: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 07:38 AM » |
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Well I've been stripping and tuning-up my 1987 325e for a while now and now that its running perfect, my friend hands my his old (but still brand new) t3/t4 turbo. Well, I've snatched up a 524td exhaust manifold so no problem there. Stock, the e-tune runs about 9.0:1 compression, but I'd want to reduce that to at least 8.0:1 before running much pressure. The question is, what are the best ways to lower the compression on the m20 small block e-tune? I guess regular concepts would be like changing the pistons, a racing cam, 524td crank or just a thicker head gasket, but are there any other ideas. I also know some things can be accomplished by switching out with i-tune parts, but I'm not too sure what effects it brings. Any insite is appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 10:50 PM » |
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I havent heard any complaints about going with a thicker head gasket...
when I was doing research for my (now shit canned, but hopefully soon to be underway once i get another E-30) turbo e-30 project that is what everyone was saying they had done on theirs...
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« Reply #2 on: Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:53 AM » |
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i'm a little confused - when you turbocharge a car, it makes more compression - i'm not sure why you would want to lower the compression ratio before turbocharging. ..? that would bring it back up...
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« Reply #3 on: Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:12 PM » |
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too much compression equals less boost which means less fun.
basically...
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 07:02 AM » |
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I'm with Jeff on this one. Turbos server to raise the compression ratio of the gas/fuel mixture. I'm not sure that a turbo is the most efficient way to do this (especially considering the turbo-lag penalty you will certainly incur). Even so, say turbos are the way to go, why wouldn't you turbo charge it just like it is? You would need less boost, meaning less lag, since that boost would occur earlier in the rev's?
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 04:13 PM » |
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When you are adding boost to a car (no matter turbocharging, supercharging, ect . . .) the goals are to achieve the best delivery of boost into the engine and to make the engine strain as little as possible. When you plan to force boost into an engine you actually make the engine run with a substantial amount less effort, so that when the extra pressure is added it gives more effect. If the compression inside of the engine is already too high, when you force boost the engine will explode. So the more boost and the more effect therefrom you desire to feel the less you want to make the engine work with each rev, thus lowering the compression makes more effective use of turbo power. What most people do to accomplish this is install a thick head gasket (usually copper). This decreases the strain on key points of the engine and makes the pistons make a looser connection with the top of the block (thus making easier travel smoother). Fortunatly, the e-tune block already runs a 9.0:1 compression ratio (most turbo engines run about 8.5:1) instead of the i-tune which runs 9.5:1; so really one really good modification to the engine, will make me safe to run about 10psi of boost. The usual concept for a 325e stroker is to take an e-tune block (except super-eta [1988]) and: replace the aluminum crank with the drop-forged counter-balanced one from a 524td replace the camshaft replace the valve-springs with those of a 528e replace the pistons (extreame proformance) replace the head gasket (extreame proformance)
but does anyone suggest anything else to make the engine flower smoother easier?
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 05:34 PM » |
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hmm apart from what you mentioned not sure, you can always flash your ecu, as well as swap engines but apart from that not to sure
but good post though
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