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Title: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 03:22 PM
Am I correct in that all E30 M3's were 1.8's?  If so was there a performance advantage in that car over a 325i?  Or was it all suspension and styling? 


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Jeff Seabrook on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 07:23 PM
I thought the e30 M cars were 2.3?  They have the 4 banger with 192 hp, higher rpm, and much better engineering - the only advantage an e30 325i, 90 in specific, would have over the M3 would be a start off the line to about 40/45 mph because of the gearing and torque advantage the 325i has over the M car at a standing start.  Once the M car get's going, the 325i will be pretty far back.  Night and day difference starting at 50mph.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 07:51 PM
2.3 makes sense.  I knew they pretty fast, and just didn't see how they got that from the 1.8.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Luke318is on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:24 PM
2.3 makes sense.  I knew they pretty fast, and just didn't see how they got that from the 1.8.



You'll be surprised howmuch you can get out of a 1.8! ;) (with the right stuff!)

now back to the question:

the e30 m3 is a 2.3 4-banger with 16 valves and double overhead cams producing 198bhp

then you have the E30 M3 EVO,a 2.5 producing 210bhp
(the gasketcover is painted in ///M-sport colors,and they have an adjustible rear spoiler)


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Jeff Seabrook on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 12:38 AM
euro spec has more HP - the e30 here has 192.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 12:46 AM
Would those M3 EVO's been available in the US?


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Jeff Seabrook on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:19 AM
Nope - but you can import parts to upgrade your US spec S14 to the Evo spec's.  Some M cars that never made it here to the US are the e30 M3 Convertible, e34 M5 Wagon.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: piratelife on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 12:14 PM
Jeff,
       Nothing like getting your doors blown off by an M wagon. pardon my ignorance, but I never knew they made such a thing. I do believe that would make the trips to the store a bit more interesting.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 12:51 PM
I am probalby showing my age, but, I agree a M5 Wagon would be a cool machine.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: piratelife on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:35 PM
Dport,
         You are only as old as you act. Age is a state of mind.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 06:06 PM
I was thinking more in the sense that I think a station wagon could be cool.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: piratelife on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 03:43 AM
Dport,
        Anything with M power could be cool. I actually like the station wagon concept a lot more than I do the minivans. It is kind of wierd. You reacha point in life where you need something as a family truckster, but don't want it to look like a family truckster. I had a minivan and hated it. It was actually a nice van, but I hated the looks of it. At the time it served it's purpose very well, but I was very happy to see it go down the road. I replaced it with an xterra, but I am looking at an X-3, or maybe a used X-5.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 12:12 PM
I agree completely.  I never want a minivan.  The only thing I don't like about the X series is that you can only seat 5.  I got one one day as a loaner from the local dealer.  WOW, what a machine.  I wish it would have taken a couple of days to fix my car.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: piratelife on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 02:21 PM
dport,
        If you know a salesman there they will probably let you take one for a weekend. The dealership I bought the car from is OUTSTANDING! They will loan about anything on the lot. When I had my initial check done they gave me a choice of a loaner and told me to keep it for the weekend if I couldn't make it to the dealership in time. I know that this isn't the case with all dealers, but it should be. This maybe biased, but I find myself comparing everything to BMW. The Xterra is a great truck if you go camping and the like, but most of my driving in it is done on the highway, so an X-3 will probably be in my future. I found out that some form of alteration is going to take place in the near future, so i might wait a little longer. About the van, it was a great purchase at the time. It never gave me a bit of trouble, but it was a minivan and had to go somewhere else. the thing I do miss is the seating capacity. Now when I have company in town, we have to take two cars to go somewhere. The bright side is I get to drive my car and watch the passenger hang on.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Luke318is on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 04:47 PM
M5 touring:

(http://static.marktplaats.nl/fotos/autos/bmw/81544.jpg)

 ;)


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 04:59 PM
Cool car. thanks for the picture.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Luke318is on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 05:03 PM
belongs to a friend of mine..

E34 M5 tourings are about the most difficult cars to find,next to a 2002 turbo!!

notice the double sunroof,man that is sweet!


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 05:17 PM
What did that come with, 3.2 or 3.5?  How many were produced?  It's a stick, right?


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: piratelife on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 07:50 PM
That has to be the best looking station wagon I have ever seen. I guess I should be saying touring, but you get the idea. Thanks for the pic and the information.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Luke318is on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 10:43 AM
What did that come with, 3.2 or 3.5?  How many were produced?  It's a stick, right?

it came in a 3.6 & 3.8,not sure about the production numbers

and yes it's a stick! ;)


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: DeanP on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 02:52 PM
Those must euro-spec engines.  I haven't ever seen anything with that size engine before.  I'm sure there is whole host of cars that are never seen over here.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Luke318is on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 07:42 PM
Those must euro-spec engines.  I haven't ever seen anything with that size engine before.  I'm sure there is whole host of cars that are never seen over here.

i´m sure there are!

even modern european cars are modified and detuned when theyre sold in the states

must be your crazy emission laws!


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: shaggsm3 on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 05:26 PM
I'm looking to buy one. How much does an E30 m3 go for price wise?


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Dustin on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 01:50 PM
Jeff will tell you he won't pay less than... what is it $13,000 Jeff? lol... I have found some locally as low as $9700 but I would not buy from that low of a range without knowing the exact maintnence history and stuff... When I buy one (which I will, hopefully after I get the passat paid off) I'll be lookin in the $12-16,000 range, and it better have less owners than the passat (so less than four) and a good maintnence record.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Jeff Seabrook on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 06:31 PM
correct dustin - I have though changed my mind, and opted to go for the 2006 Z06, but if I were to get an e30 M3 it would be at least $15,000 - that is a car that has all records and it's all original.  You can get some that are beat up for less than 10k, or get one from a car dealer who has no idea what the car is - sometimes you can sneak one on them.


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Dustin on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 03:31 AM
That would be such a hard decision for me... a 2006 Z06 or an E30 M3... I mean damn... both are such badass machines...


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Jeff Seabrook on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 10:19 PM
if I come across the right M car, 1990/1991 - I guarantee you it's mine.  bye bye vette ;)  Me, personally, it's
BMW: 51/ Vette: 49


Title: Re: E30 M3
Post by: Jeff Seabrook on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:38 PM
they now have the X5 that seats 7 :)

I agree completely.  I never want a minivan.  The only thing I don't like about the X series is that you can only seat 5.  I got one one day as a loaner from the local dealer.  WOW, what a machine.  I wish it would have taken a couple of days to fix my car.